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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:02:47 -
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[fit from youtube: FedNavy Comet for Burner Worm] Published on Sep 15, 2014 [Federation Navy Comet] perfect skills, no implants, no boosters Small Armor Repairer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Small Anti-Kinetic Pump I Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Acolyte II x3
Fit+video Personally i have lost 3 Comets trying this fit but finally i got it. Thanks for author!
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2015.03.14 00:04:48 -
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Team burner: Hawk
Finished it 3 times i see that it uses defenders (this is not given in online spreadsheet tho). Guessing its chance to use defender about 45-50%. IMHO too much for missiles.
Makes me wonder which weapon/ammo would be best here.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.03.18 13:25:44 -
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Jori McKie wrote: In short forget the Kestrel, use any other suitable ship, not the Tristan. Vengeance has defender missiles, so a lot of your missile DPS is taken out.
Yesterday i have completed Jaguar team. And it looked like it has defender missiles too. Not big chance, i would estimate it to 20%. Hawk has the chance to intercept incoming missiles closer to 50%.
Need to say that this is not data from logs. It is just shorthand analysis of what i have seen during mission. I used to look at target in final stage (when you kill the burner itself) and using defenders is very visible.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:15:56 -
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Does anyone know if tracking disruption on burners work? If so what do they do against it?
I mean nasty Succubus (killed my Daredevil because of one my mistake): he orbits on 14km. What if i disrupt his optimal? Will it just fly around and do no damage? Or it will go closer? I know: it's better to test but maybe someone already tested it?
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.03.20 00:31:32 -
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I use kiting Garmur for all team burners. Works nice. 2x racial ECM, racial light missiles. Keep at 25km, jam one logi, kill another. Then kill second logi but sometimes it gets too far (when you ECM it it tries to get range but sometimes cannot return back in time) and i just kill burner itself. Was never able to kill burner with both logi alive - ECM is very unreliable.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.04.10 22:20:53 -
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Burner Team: just checked - it takes me in average 15-20 minutes from accepting mission to completing. Half of time it takes to reach destination and return. Getting from 2 jumps up to 5.
Is there anything i could do to make it faster?
btw: yesterday got faction module from burner.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.04.10 23:11:35 -
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Ploing wrote:March rabbit wrote:Burner Team: just checked - it takes me in average 15-20 minutes from accepting mission to completing. Half of time it takes to reach destination and return. Getting from 2 jumps up to 5. .... btw: yesterday got faction module from burner. yeah 15 min for single mission can be, but multiple agents on your tour can reduce the time a lot. what did you use? using kiting Garnur. Usually i jam first logi and kill second. Jammed logi burns away and i use this to get main burner as far as i can from second logi. Most of the time second logi cannot return in time to repair burner. I think it takes like 5-7 minutes which adds to 5-7 minutes of traveling.
You mentioned multiple agents.... Heh... this may be it... didn't think about it.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.04.11 08:26:28 -
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Ploing wrote:jam garmur is the right choice. just check ur agent on the way to give you moar. if your lucky you have several mission, depends on agents. so you can go do a mission and more on a move.
implies that you have standing to faction. usually i have 20 agents for burners but it can go up to 50 if i go for them . 50 agents for burners? You mean you visit let's say every Gallentean agent to ask for lvl4 burner missions?
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:44:22 -
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Maybe i have missed it but: have anyone succeeded to beat teams without killing logi? I have seen kiting fits, i have seen brawling fits but all the time people kill logi first.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.04.25 21:29:14 -
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Astra Orion wrote:Has anyone solo'd the Angel Burner recently the Anomic Agent Angel Cartel, this one: "This pirate will be flying a shield boosted Dramiel frigate, with an extremely small signature radius. He tends to deal most of his damage with Domination Fusion ammo, supplemented with Mjolnir rockets. Survivors of his previous attacks claim that he likes to orbit his opponents at very close range at high speed to make himself hard to hit. He always flies with a Stasis Webifier and Warp Scrambler fit. "
I have tried Hawk Faction fit, killed it once (with help from an Imperial Slicer) and tried it solo and lasted not long at all. Tried to orbit at about 8k I believe....
Any cheap fits for this guy solo? Last time i have seen him i have used Jaguar: 3x 200mm autos
2x Web 1MN AB Medium shield extender
3x Gyrostabs Tracking enhancer
2x small anti-explosive screen reinforcer II
Idea: 1MN AB + 2x Web gives like 10% more speed than has Dramiel. So it loses its angular speed and tries to follow. At this time i adjust speed to keep him in one point and just blap. Had thoughts to exchange TE to another Gyro...
It worked. Finished in 30% of shield if i remember correctly. Need to say it was weeks ago
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.04.26 20:46:56 -
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Celgar Thurn wrote:I'm a little confused. So are you saying there are Pirate Burner & Team Burner missions but the Garmur should only be used for the Team Burner missions yep, i tank by range but has too low DPS to break burners. Solo burner: huge tank, huge DPS + scram/web Team burner: normal tank, unknown DPS, 2 logistics ships assist burner.
Celgar Thurn wrote: I have seen a Garmur fit with an AB, 2x TP, T2 SB + targeting range script, 2x T2 Flare Catalyst rig and 1x T2 Rigor Catalyst rig.
I have seen another Garmur fir with a T2 Ionic Field Projector rig, 2x BZ-5 ECM, Gisti B-Type IMN MWD on it as well.
first fit tries to outDPS logi, second - jams logi and then kills burner itself.
Celgar Thurn wrote:Which are those two fittings used for and will they do all types of burner missions or just Team ones not sure if you can outDPS logi so i would not try first fit second fit works pretty nicely, you just need to practice it a little to find best strategy. Don't forget to switch missiles and EWAR modules according to NPC type. If you scared of losing such expensive ship you can fit Kestrel the same way. It would be longer but pretty doable
Celgar Thurn wrote:I presume the Garmur doesn't need tanking modules as it is speed tanking or out of range exactly. Just make sure you ARE out of range. I use 25km just to be sure. But burners max range is something 14km. Once i was too drunk to control it and got too close.... Gut out in structure but was lucky enough to get out.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.01 23:43:43 -
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Just lost my Enyo to Burner Daredevil. Something has changed: needed to have my 2x Webs overheated all the time. Lost them - then after 11km my rails stopped to hit burner.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.03 14:16:50 -
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Update for taloses: location is deadspace so no warps around. Warping leads right into bunch of turrets but they don't shoot.
Looted faction stuff for about 180 million ISK
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.05 14:06:05 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:March rabbit wrote:Just lost my Enyo to Burner Daredevil. Something has changed: needed to have my 2x Webs overheated all the time. Lost them - then after 11km my rails stopped to hit burner. didn't the daredevil always try to orbit at 11km? As far as i know it does. But previously Enyo with 2x Webs was able to keep Devil in tange. Which was not the case last time.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.06 12:12:52 -
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Jori McKie wrote: Burner Ashimmu+Sentinel - Gila - Gila setup is weird because after you launch Drones Ashimmu+Sentinel will target them 100% all the time. So as long as you have Drones you actually won't need tank and have enough cap but as Drone AI is wonky i wouldn't risk a no tank setup on the Gila at all.
I'm curious: why not use T1 cheap drones to just make burner look to other side? I mean take Gila, fit it for maximum missile damage. Deploy drones, return drones, deploy drones, return drones,... Ignore Sentinels and kill Ashimmu right from the start. As you said they constantly aggro drones, so if you perform deploy/return fast enough you won't lose drones and you won't have incoming EWAR/DPS from burners?
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.06 15:00:07 -
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Jori McKie wrote:March rabbit wrote:Jori McKie wrote: Burner Ashimmu+Sentinel - Gila - Gila setup is weird because after you launch Drones Ashimmu+Sentinel will target them 100% all the time. So as long as you have Drones you actually won't need tank and have enough cap but as Drone AI is wonky i wouldn't risk a no tank setup on the Gila at all.
I'm curious: why not use T1 cheap drones to just make burner look to other side? I mean take Gila, fit it for maximum missile damage. Deploy drones, return drones, deploy drones, return drones,... Ignore Sentinels and kill Ashimmu right from the start. As you said they constantly aggro drones, so if you perform deploy/return fast enough you won't lose drones and you won't have incoming EWAR/DPS from burners? Sounds good try it, i have no idea how the Drone AI is triggered. It might be that only after your Drones did damage, Ashimmu+Sentinel will target them, it might not. You wrote '... target them 100% all the time". I take it like: immediately after you deploy drones you lose aggro from burners and drones take damage. Sorry if it is not the case
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.06 21:03:41 -
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Just lost my Comet (fit from recommended with little pimped modules to make it safer) to Burner Worm in system with active Incursion. Couldn't not break his tank and my tank was not enough to sustain incoming DPS. Created ticket with question if burners are affected by Incursion or not.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.08 13:02:44 -
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Why you killed sentinels first? Is it really needed? As it looked in video you have killed Ashimmu faster than 2 sentinels. ?
jackudza wrote: Used the following setup multiple times. More than enough tank
In video it looked like you were very close to 25% of shield so in my book it is not 'more than enough tank'
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.08 13:21:04 -
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Jori McKie wrote:March rabbit wrote:Why you killed sentinels first? Is it really needed? As it looked in video you have killed Ashimmu faster than 2 sentinels. ? Your tank is anti Ashimmu EM+The and the Sentinels shot Exp+Kin, so getting rid of the Sentinels is reducing the incoming DPS a lot. It should be close to be on par killing 2x Sentinels vs 1x Ashimmu. oh. thanks
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.10 14:04:30 -
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Mantas Amatin wrote:Can you do only burner missions without normal ones(declining them)? You can decline any mission but you get standing loss for declining regular missions.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.10 20:25:55 -
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Mantas Amatin wrote:March rabbit wrote:Mantas Amatin wrote:Can you do only burner missions without normal ones(declining them)? You can decline any mission but you get standing loss for declining regular missions. Can you keep doing only burner ones or you have to do some normal ones too to keep ur standings up? Missions are given randomly from pool. Once in Sisi i've tried to do this way (running only burner missions and decline all other). Lost contact with 2 agents. Haven't tried it in Tranq
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.11 13:57:55 -
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Jack Jr Talvanen wrote:So there is any chance to kill burner worm using this garmur fit: ... My Max speed without overload warpdrive is 4318,02 and turned off after scramed Worm my top Speed is 612,3, my DPS is a bit low only 156 using T2 missiles
Thx in advance !! I think when you get into scram you will die. And when you kite it you won't break his tank. I used FedComet to do it and i had like 300DPS (can be wrong here) and it wasn't fast job to finish him.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.11 14:11:00 -
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Jack Jr Talvanen wrote:March rabbit wrote:[quote=Jack Jr Talvanen]So there is any chance to kill burner worm using this garmur fit: ... I used FedComet to do it and i had like 300DPS (can be wrong here) and it wasn't fast job to finish him. Thanks for your advise !! could you show me your Comet fit? [high] 2x Light Neutron blaster 2
[Med] 1mn Mwd scram small capacitor booster
[Low] 2x Armor Kinetic Hardeners Magnetic field stabilizer small armor repairer
[Rigs] Hybrid collision accelerator Anti-Kinetic Pump Auxiliary nano pump
[Drones] 3x Acolyte T1 3x Acolyte T2
Using t1 drones to initially give Worm something to shoot at, then switch them to T2. Modules and rigs are pimped a little (T2 variant works but i like safety so i used a little of faction/deadspace)
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.20 15:57:09 -
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Artemesia Sidonis wrote:At First thx to Jori, Jachuza and Archetyp66 for very good advises and setups.
Now I m round about half a year in EVE and of course not fitted with much money.
So it would really help, if it possible to make a main post for player like me, with cheaper ship setup.
A fast kill time is not interessting to me, but save and not so expensive ;)!
May it is possible? You can make this post. Contact me in game and i provide you with cheap T2/faction fits i use for Burners. I never fly ships above 40-50 million ISK w/ fit. And i have ships for all kinds of Burners except Daredevil (it killed my last Enyo and i'm too lazy to find new fit).
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.05.21 11:17:19 -
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Pakokkie wrote:How to quickly and easely finish the Anomic Base with the 3 long range Talos rats.
[Enyo,]... How long it takes with somehow limited Enyo damage?
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.06.02 18:26:18 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Jori McKie wrote:Update 30.05.2015: Rudimentary guide how to blitz LvL 4 with Burner missions and make ridiculous amounts of LP and ISK. Patch Carnyx: Frequency of Burner Missions offered by level 4 Security agents has been lowered. do you find that you still get burner missions inside of 3 jumps? I tend to average about 5 jumps for mine, and seeing one 3 or less seems very rare. maybe I need to move agents? Dodixie - "<4" is very rare case
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2015.06.03 22:53:51 -
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Pakokkie wrote:jackudza wrote: [Vigilant, Angel Anomic Base] ...
Also tried the fit without Cap Booster. Works well. [Vigilant, Angel Anomic Base capstable] ...
The Vigilante setup works fine for this mission. The frigates do insane damage. I managed to finish this without overheating and did not use the cap injector. I think that was joke? My Vigilant fitted by fit number 1 was killed in less than 1 minute O_o To note: 4 Burner escort Dramiels.
22:48:20 Combat 53 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Smashes 22:48:20 Combat 43 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Penetrates 22:48:20 Combat 40 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Penetrates 22:48:20 Combat 34 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:20 Combat 34 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:20 Combat 34 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits
22:48:18 Combat Burner Escort Dramiel misses you completely 22:48:18 Combat 310 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Smashes 22:48:18 Combat 159 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Glances Off
22:48:17 Combat 132 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:17 Combat 132 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:17 Combat 126 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:16 Combat 38 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Penetrates 22:48:16 Combat 260 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Penetrates 22:48:16 Combat 115 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Grazes
22:48:14 Combat 35 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Hits 22:48:14 Combat 34 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:14 Combat 34 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:14 Combat 34 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Mjolnir Rocket - Hits 22:48:14 Combat 33 from Burner Escort Dramiel - Hits
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